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Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]

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 Oldcity Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 8:55 AM Post
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crewcrazy said:
Can't shake the feeling we'll be in this building again in January.
Yeah, and I'd bet on the Packers in that game. They weren't all that sharp today and were right there.
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 hurricanecrush Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 8:58 AM Post
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How did Wilhelm lose the game? If he doesn't facemask him, he was gone.
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 PeaveyFury Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 8:58 AM Post
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After 4 losses like that, you'd think we'd be getting used to them, but to me these are far more painful than getting whomped like 31-10.
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 ttsather Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 9:05 AM Post
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I have seen nothing so far to make me doubt that this team is capable of winning the Super Bowl.  Every loss has been so close, with so many Packer mistakes and (earlier) injuries.  When we put it together, we win.  I really consider us to be the most dangerous team in the NFL.  That said, it's so tough to watch us give a game away on a play or two, especailly when it's poor coaching. 
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 Baldkin Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 9:08 AM Post
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And here comes another week of hearing about Rodgers record in close games. Even though this one might be on him... I went back and looked, here's 2008's close game loss 4th quarters.

10/5 vs Atl: Tied the game at 17 in the 4th. Defense gives up 10 straight to make it 27-17. Rodgers drives to put them down 3 at the end of the game.
11/2 vs Titans: Leads the pack to the last 6 points of regulation to tie the game. Lose in OT.
11/9 vs Vikings: Leads the Packers back, with 17 straight points for a 27-21 lead. Vikings win with a TD 28-27.
11/30: vs Carolina: Gives the packers the lead, 28-21 in the 4th. Gives them the lead again, 31-28. Defense gives up TD, loss 35-31.
12/7 vs Houston: Gives Pack the lead, 14-13 in the Defense gives up a TD. Ties the game at 21. Texans FG wins it. 24-21.
12/14 vs Jacksonville: Defense gives up TD, make it 14-13. Packers take a 16-14 lead in the 4th. Late TD wins it for Jax, 20-16.
12/22 vs Bears: Puts Pack up 17-10. Defense gives up a TD then a FG in OT. Loss 20-17.

Oh, by the way, that's the defense that got the D coordinator fired.  So, really, the next guy I hear complain about Rodgers in close games.... sigh.

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 thablingster Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 9:12 AM Post
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I went back and watched the replay of the kickoff return, Hall and Crabtree both attacked the same guy in the wedge, which gave Weems space. Underwood was either being held or was grossly ineffective in getting off his block which created the seam. Had Wilhelm not facemasked the only guy who had a chance to catch Weems would have been Shields, who was engaged and going the opposite direction.
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 jazzytrav Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 9:50 AM Post
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crewcrazy said:
The next time some sportswriter feels like bringing up Rodgers' record in close games, I'm going to bust out this game. All the special teams had to do was cover a freaking kickoff.
The worst part is that this game will only be mentioned as a stat for Ryan, as he calmly led his team less than 20 yards in 50 seconds with a timeout to set up the winning field goal.

Those calling for the head of Matt Wilhelm should keep in mind that 10 other guys couldn't tackle him and that facemask was the only thing between Weems and the end zone.  Obviously it could have gone better, but Wilhelm did what he had to do, which is more than anyone else covering that kick was able to do.  You wanna point out someone that had a horrible game, my eyes would be on A.J. Hawk.
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 lcbj68c Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 9:57 AM Post
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Just got back from watching the game. Let me preface this by saying I think very highly of McCarthy (Thompson, not so much). But McCarthy really blew this thing today with play calling in the first half with his inside run calls.

The drive that lead to our first field goal, on third and 1 from the 3, he called an inside run that went nowhere. (No lesson learned)
On the Rodgers fumbled drive, we had first and goal from the 3. He called an inside run that went nowhere.
Then proceeded to call two straight Rodgers inside runs that again, went nowhere and led to the fumbling of the football.
Later in the game, he called an inside run and 2nd and 1 and Brandon Jackson proceeded to lose 7 yards.

He really played to the strength of the Falcons defense and it was sickening. Down near the goal line, we needed some bootlegs or rollouts to move the pocket, yet McCarthy time after time continued to try and bang away to no success. The one play leading to a 14point turnaround and what really was the game. That and the discipline we had in lack of penalties last week really killed us. I think this game was lost mentally with our players and mentally in scheming. Talent wise, we're better than the Falcons. This loss was disgusting for that reason.
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 dlk9s Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 11:57 AM Post
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On the Rodgers fumble series, the first play was not an inside run. It was the lob pass to Quinn that he should have caught. Then we had the two sneaks.

The bottom line is that Rodgers played very well. He was under pressure all game and got out of trouble almost every time. Yeah, he had the big fumble, but sometimes things happen. That TD pass at the end was amazing.

It was funny - I was at the game (big Packers fan showing, by the way - a "Go Pack Go" chant started throughout the Dome when we tied it at 10) and after we tied it at 17, I bet my brother MARTA fare that the Falcons would win it in regulation. Worst $5 I ever won.

It's incredible, as badly as we played in some areas (everything except the passing game, basically), and as much as every break went for the Falcons (except, I guess for that Tony Gonzalez non-TD review), we still should've won that game. Too bad the world-beating Eagles are doing us no favors to this point.
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 young guns Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 12:46 PM Post
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I believe that Jackson 7 yard loss was a pitch play that was supposed to go outside. Also, with how the game turned out, would it have been so bad if Weems would have taken the kickoff for a td? At least we still would have had another chance to drive for a td to tie it again with 40something seconds and 2 timeouts.
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 lcbj68c Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 1:13 PM Post
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Aaron Rodgers did play very well. My only grief with him his inability to get the plays off in a timely manner. He's got too much he's trying to do sometimes presnap that our OL is getting killed down in their stances before the play even starts. I just think we as a team were outsmarted and lost this game mentally. Talent wise, we're better.
McCarthy trying to be some team he isn't, and calling so many short yardage running plays without personnel to get it done against a team that excels against that situation.
Jarrett Bush decides HE needs to be the one to touch the punted ball after walking all over the sidelines like a cat in a petunia garden. A lot of frustrating moments in this game taht had nothing to do with lack of talent or gameplay necessarily, minus quite a few missed tackles that extended Falcons drives.
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 jazzytrav Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 2:01 PM Post
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Punt team gunner is pretty much Bush's only job. I've tried very hard to give him the benefit of the doubt this year, but you would think one of the first things going through his head at that point is, "Did I go out of bounds at all?" If he's a special teams "ace" worthy of matching another team's tender, he can't make stupid mistakes like that.

Jordy and Swain both looked good today...Swain on special teams and also had a few nice catches.

I think we matched up well with them talent-wise and would have looked a ton better without stupid goal line play-calling. Then again, the Falcons would probably look better without a bunch of stupid personal fouls in the beginning.

A.J. Hawk took a huge step back in this game. He was getting beat on nearly every play, and a lot of Turner's game is on him.
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 colbyjack Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 3:16 PM Post
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While a loss is always frustrating, I take a little solace in that the Packers loss to a pretty dang good team today. While the Packers blew a few opportunities, the Falcons fell short on a few of their own, particularly in the first half. Both teams appeared to have a couple of plays that were mis-called by the officials, so I consider those a wash. We would be feeling pretty dang fortunate right now had the Packers pulled that one out.

Rodgers fumble ultimately became the most damaging play of the game, but he also almost single-handedly almost put the Packers in position to win.

However, the play-calling is still frustrating. It drives me crazy that the team had some short yardage situations on first and second down later in the game (including on the goal-line) and tried to get too cute instead of just trying to pound the ball to convert and keep the clock rolling.

Even with those troubles, the offense clearly can move the ball pretty effectively. I think it's clear what their priority needs to be during the offseason, especially given the way the Falcons moved the ball in the complete opposite fashion with Turner.

And I agree, if Wilhelm didn't facemask that guy, he was gone, or at least on the 50 without the penalty.
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 jazzytrav Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 3:19 PM Post
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I hate watching Turner play when I wanted the Packers to sign him so badly 3 years ago.
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 colbyjack Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 28, 2010, 3:23 PM Post
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You and me both jazzy. I seem to remember him being a very popular free agent hopeful by many to most Packers fans.
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 Godspeed Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 30, 2010, 5:29 AM Post
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Some interesting information via Bob McGinn:

Officially, the Packers had the ball nine times, but two of them lasted just one play at the end of each half. Of their seven legitimate possessions, two were three-and-outs. On the other five, they sustained drives of 9 plays for 66 gross yards, 11-69, 7-80, 9-52 and 16-100. Of Atlanta’s eight possessions, two were three-and-outs, one was a four-and-out and one was a five-and-out. They sustained three long drives of 10-65, 14-80 and 14-85. The Falcons’ game-winning march was 6-20.


100 yards were gained on that last drive! 100! Yeah we lost, but this Packers team is very good. They outplayed the conference leaders, but was left just one mistake away from a difficult road victory. And they gotta come away with more than 17 points off of 5 sustained drives.

You read stuff saying that if the playoffs started today, the Packers would not make it. I have the utmost confidence that this team not only belongs, but can make some noise in the playoffs.
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 JoeHova Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 30, 2010, 5:55 AM Post
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dlk9s said:
 It was the lob pass to Quinn that he should have caught.

I disagree that Johnson should have caught that. That was an extremely bad pass.
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 jazzytrav Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 30, 2010, 6:22 AM Post
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Johnson shouldn't have even been trying to catch it, although if I was him, I would have done the same thing. That pass was right on target for the receiver behind him (I think it was Quarless).
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 NDOG44 Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 30, 2010, 8:04 AM Post
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That pass was obviously to Quarless.  Johnson just got in the way.  Too bad the announcers couldn't figure that out even after Rodgers was on screen 'talking' to Johnson and pointing to Quarless.
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 JoeHova Week 12: Packers at Falcons (11/28/10): Noon CT [Packers lose, 20-17]
Posted: November 30, 2010, 10:33 AM Post
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NDOG44 said:
Johnson just got in the way.

Good thing too, if that's true. If it was for Quarless, it was way behind him and probably going to be picked. Of course, Rodgers made sure to turn it over 2 plays later anyway. He has a real sense of fair play.
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