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Posted: November 17, 2012, 10:11 PM Post
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I still can't believe they didn't go for 2 with :08 left. They had all the momentum, I'd have went for the jugular and took the loss if it failed. That's better than the crapshoot that is overtime.


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  Re: Your 2012 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 18, 2012, 11:16 AM Post
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I counted three reverses/end-arounds/"fly sweeps"; two went for >10 yards and one got stuffed, but the one that got stuffed the tackler got hurt and knocked out of the game.

I understand why they went for the tie - OSU did virtually nothing once they got past midfield. Plus Ball had just gotten stuffed from 1 yard out. The Badgers defense had held OSU to 7 points and a little over 200 total yards, so I see a very legit reason to trust their defense.

Once again it came down to three plays - two on special teams (punt return for TD, missed FG) and one on the officials (blown pass interference call that would have given UW a first down at or inside OSU's 20 yard line and a potential FG instead of punting). Perhaps the non-fumble call on UW was a makeup call for the PI no-call, but once again UW dominated OSU in the statistics columns but comes up short due to special teams.


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  Re: Your 2012 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 24, 2012, 7:56 PM Post
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Different game, same story, same result - they got tight and conservative. Ran a total of two "fly sweeps"/end-arounds, both going for first downs. In the 2nd half they even got away from the toss sweeps to Ball - the play Ball scored the TD on - instead choosing to run up the middle right at Penn State's strength, their DTs. This isn't on French for missing the FG - they went 3 yards backwards on 3 plays and a 45-yard FG in windy conditions is no gimmie. But the game never should have went to OT to begin with.

In each conference game they lost they ran the fly sweep/end-around three times or less. I'm fed up with Canada, and hope he is fired before their bowl game.


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  Re: Your 2012 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 24, 2012, 9:10 PM Post
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I'm assuming you aren't, but are you using the fly sweeps as the lone barometer as to whether or not they got conservative? I only ask bc that's the one thing you keep mentioning & keeping tabs on.

And I completely agree about Canada -- haven't seen anything that makes me hope he gets another shot.

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  Re: Your 2012 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 24, 2012, 10:44 PM Post
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Canada should have been axed at the same time as the o-line coach. But I'm not confident Bielema will make that move even now.


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  Re: Your 2012 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 25, 2012, 10:46 AM Post
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The fly sweep/end-around isn't the only play - I've also mentioned the roll-out and throw back to the TE which they have put in their back pocket too, maybe because Stave has the arm strength to do it and Phillips/O'Brien do not, and the TE screen is another play they have had success with in past years but have only seen once or twice this year. But I've keyed on that play because it has been so successful - I only recall it being stuffed twice, and it almost always gets a first down if not well over 10 yards.

The fly sweep is a critical play for the Badgers because of the lack of a passing QB this year; they didn't need it last year because of Wilson's arm (and legs, and having two deep-threat WRs in Toon and Abbrederis). If teams key on Ball and crash the box with their OLBs and safeties then the play is wide open to the outside for a big gain. If UW runs the play consistently and breaks a few then the OLBs have to stay home and the safeties can't crash the box, opening up the inside run.

The proof is in Ball's YPC - the games where they didn't run it (Nebraska, Michigan State, Penn State, and the first three games of the season) were the games where Ball had his lowest YPC.


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  Re: Your 2012 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 25, 2012, 3:16 PM Post
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The fly sweep/end-around isn't the only play - I've also mentioned the roll-out and throw back to the TE which they have put in their back pocket too, maybe because Stave has the arm strength to do it and Phillips/O'Brien do not, and the TE screen is another play they have had success with in past years but have only seen once or twice this year. But I've keyed on that play because it has been so successful - I only recall it being stuffed twice, and it almost always gets a first down if not well over 10 yards.

The fly sweep is a critical play for the Badgers because of the lack of a passing QB this year; they didn't need it last year because of Wilson's arm (and legs, and having two deep-threat WRs in Toon and Abbrederis). If teams key on Ball and crash the box with their OLBs and safeties then the play is wide open to the outside for a big gain. If UW runs the play consistently and breaks a few then the OLBs have to stay home and the safeties can't crash the box, opening up the inside run.

The proof is in Ball's YPC - the games where they didn't run it (Nebraska, Michigan State, Penn State, and the first three games of the season) were the games where Ball had his lowest YPC.

Appreciate the response.

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  Re: Your 2012 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 26, 2012, 8:22 AM Post
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All I could think, that entire game, was that they needed to do one thing on offense: Run it away from #47. Yet, they kept running it right at him.

Although, had you told me they'd go to OT on the road vs Penn St with their 3rd string QB 6 weeks ago, I'd have taken it.


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