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 homer Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: October 30, 2011, 4:59 AM Post
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Really disappointing to have two boneheaded plays (punt block and last TD) lose a game for you. Granted, the OSU fumble on the punt return sort of negated the block but still.....

The fact of the matter is that UW lost the game in the trenches. They couldn't get the running game going (and why they continued to try to run outside is beyond me) and their D line was beaten up by OSU. They actually didn't do too badly on D but the three big plays absolutely killed them.

All in all this is still a very talented football team that simply broke down on too many occasions. They should be undefeated right now. Too bad.
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 ReverendBrewmeister Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: October 30, 2011, 7:50 AM Post
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jason21nl said:
On top of that, watching Nebraska dominate MI St makes me even more mad that we lost that game.  
Nebraska also put up big rushing totals against OSU. The Cornhuskers gained 232 yards on the round against OSU, while the Badgers only put up 89 yards against the Buckeyes. Is the Nebraska offensive line better than UW's? After that performance last night, it seems that the the Badgers' O-Line might be a bit overhyped. 
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 TooLiveBrew Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: October 30, 2011, 2:21 PM Post
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He can recruit but he better start winning the big games.  It's the same thing every year.  I'm getting tired of it. On top of that, watching Nebraska dominate MI St makes me even more mad that we lost that game.  

You can't call playing OSU this season a "big game" -- it was just a crappy loss... but by no means am I ready to use it & the MSU loss as an entire indictment of Bielema as a coach.

Like you alluded to, the Badgers annihilated Nebraska... who then obv. went on to beat MSU.  Does that mean anything more than just that in any one given game any competitive big-conference team can beat another team of the same ilk?  I think the Nebraska loss really skewed people's expectations of this season's team.  They absolutely have the offense of a national title contender, but not the defense.  That doesn't mean the Badgers still couldn't play in the Big Ten title game, & get to a good bowl game with a win (or decent bowl game with a loss).
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 jason21nl Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: October 30, 2011, 2:49 PM Post
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Any time you play OSU its a big game, especially playing them at their place when you HAVE to win.  The Rose Bowl last year was a big game.  It's the 2nd year in a row they have lost at MI St on the road.  I feel as if he can't win with this team, then he isn't going to win at all.  I'm sorry, I wasn't expecting a "good" bowl game this year.  I was expecting a legit chance to make a run at the title.  It was set up for them to do so.
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 TooLiveBrew Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: October 30, 2011, 2:56 PM Post
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Sure, but my counterpoint is that maybe the Nebraska game set us up for disappointment. It's entirely possible for a really good team to play like a dominant team for one game.  It's looking like that's what happened against the Huskers.

And I don't feel like digging through Bielema's history, but if I had to guess, his record in what could be considered 'big games' is probably right around .500.

Who knows, maybe a year or two or three from now we'll see that he wasn't the right guy after all... but for right now, he's had too much success (both recruiting & on-field) for me to start calling for a change.
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 LouisEly Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: October 31, 2011, 3:10 AM Post
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ReverendBrewmeister said:
Nebraska also put up big rushing totals against OSU. The Cornhuskers gained 232 yards on the round against OSU, while the Badgers only put up 89 yards against the Buckeyes. Is the Nebraska offensive line better than UW's? After that performance last night, it seems that the the Badgers' O-Line might be a bit overhyped. 
Apples and oranges.  Nebraska has an option-based offense with Martinez who as we have seen is more of a runner than a passer, rather than the standard offense that UW has; that might be a tougher matchup for the OSU defense.  And the game was at Nebraska, not Columbus.  IIRC the Nebraska game was also the first game back from suspension so those players were likely a little rusty.

The biggest thing is night games on the road - those are very, very tough.  Just ask Ohio State, who came in to Madison last year as the #1 team in the nation.  I'm sure their fans thought the same thing.  UW lost two night road games on last second plays.  I wonder what the home winning % is in college football for night games vs afternoon games. 

Can you name some specific plays where Toon was soft?  Did he drop any passes?  On the last drive Wilson overthrew him (when he was open), then Toon got his facemask yanked on the first Hail Mary.  Didn't Toon also go up and take a ball away from a defender while getting interfered with earlier in the game?  I had to step away from the TV for a minute and I swear I heard the announcers say Toon yanked the ball away from a defender.  Yeah Abbrederis looks good... so does anyone else when they catch passes when they are wide open.  And it's hard to catch passes when your QB is running for his life because the tackles can't contain the DEs.

It ain't Toon's fault that Ohio State rushed for over 200 yards.  When you face an offense that is ranked #116 in the nation in passing you put 8 in the box... and hope your corner doesn't lose his guy.
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 Baldkin Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 04, 2011, 4:41 PM Post
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jason21nl said:
He can recruit but he better start winning the big games.  It's the same thing every year.  I'm getting tired of it. On top of that, watching Nebraska dominate MI St makes me even more mad that we lost that game.  
You must be under 30, and not remember the horridness of the 80's.
If you think a better coach/recruiter is going to walk through the door, well, look at what Michigan and Notre Dame have gone through the last 10 years.
If you think he's worse than Alvarez, you're kidding yourself, Barry lost a cakewalk game on the road almost every season, and ever since they scheduled Colorado and got dismantled 2 years in a row (55-17 on the road, and 41-7 at Camp Randall), they've shied away from big programs pre-big10 season.

This game was a let down game, the defense didn't show up, and the special teams let them down yet again.
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 jason21nl Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 05, 2011, 10:25 AM Post
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And you must have seen my screen and just assumed I was under 30.  You're wrong.  I'm almost 33 and I stand by my opinion.  I also don't think Barry loses last years Rose Bowl
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 JoeHova Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 05, 2011, 10:52 AM Post
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Nebraska is going to lose to Northwestern. That doesn't help their rep, which doesn't help Wisconsin's, which doesn't help Michigan State's. This turned out to be a kind of anticlimactic Big Ten season.
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 Baldkin Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 06, 2011, 5:03 AM Post
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jason21nl said:
And you must have seen my screen and just assumed I was under 30.  You're wrong.  I'm almost 33 and I stand by my opinion.  I also don't think Barry loses last years Rose Bowl
My assumption was based on your insistence that doing anything other than winning a national title isn't good enough.
Alvarez's conference record was 65–60–3. Belima's is now 29-15.
Barry's last 6 years as Coach: 10-3,  9-3,  7-6,  8-6,  5-7, 9-4  
Belima's first 6 years as Coach: 12-1, 9-4, 7-6, 10-3, 11-2, 7-2
 
I love Barry for where he brought the program, and for what he did for Wisconsin athletics, but he really wasn't the godly in game coach people made him out to be.
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 LouisEly Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 12, 2011, 8:38 AM Post
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And just like that, UW is in control of their own destiny for the Big 10 Championship. Thank you Purdue & Nebraska!
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 GB12 Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 12, 2011, 9:51 AM Post
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So as long as Wisconsin, LSU, and Oklahoma State win out, those two losses mean nothing.
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 jason21nl Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 19, 2011, 5:47 AM Post
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Badgers need to wake the hell up
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 jason21nl Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: November 19, 2011, 6:20 AM Post
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Borland is playing a terrible game.

Beth Mowins is incredibly annoying to listen to.  Her voice drives me crazy
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 jason21nl Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: December 05, 2011, 11:21 AM Post
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Congrats to Ball for being a finalist for the Heisman!
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 GB12 Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: December 05, 2011, 11:40 AM Post
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It's a shame he has no chance at winning. When you look at the numbers he should be the runaway winner, but for some stupid reason the voters can't see that.

Early projection with 71 ballots in are

1. Griffin
2. Luck
3. Richardson
4. Mathieu
5. Ball

Which is ridiculous. The only one with a case for being above Ball is Griffin. How the heck can anyone vote Richardson over Ball? What's the argument there, he plays in the SEC?
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 craigharmann Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: December 05, 2011, 2:50 PM Post
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GB12 said:
What's the argument there, he plays in the SEC?
Best player on the 2nd best team in the best conference in college football! What's wrong there?
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 GB12 Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: December 05, 2011, 3:30 PM Post
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What's wrong is that Ball had a much more impressive individual season in every aspect. There isn't even that debate like with MVP awards as to what constitutes valuable. The Heisman is awarded to "the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity". He shouldn't get bonus points because his team has an amazing defense.
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 TooLiveBrew Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: December 05, 2011, 4:18 PM Post
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Well it's more impressive in every aspect unless you think Richardson has been facing much better competition, which is apparently what most voters think.
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 jjkoestler Your 2011 Wisconsin Badgers
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Posted: December 05, 2011, 6:26 PM Post
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Ball is going to break (kinda) Barry Sanders' record. He should win the Heisman. If Ball played for a SEC school he would win in a landslide. Wilson should probably be a finalist too.

I don't understand voting for Luck. Yes, he is the best professional prospect, but that has nothing to do with the Heisman. Several QBs including Wilson have put up better stats.
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