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With the 9th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:

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  With the 9th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:
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Posted: January 04, 2009, 11:15 AM Post
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Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech. Freakish athlete at 6'7 260 pounds with a 4.6 40 time. He really established himself as a top 10 pick this year, though a bit undersized for a DE. If he could bulk up to 270 or so I think he'd be a great speed rushing DE. Reminds me a lot of Julius Peppers. Very versatile. Played all 4 years at Georgia Tech so he's more developed than most top 10 picks. Could immediately start opposite Kampman and and would instantly improve our pass rush as teams try to deal with Kampman on one side and Johnson on the other. Would be a big part of our D-Line rotation. Other options: If Johnson is gone and offensive tackles Andre Smith or Eugene Monroe are on the board, either would be a good choice as well. Either way, BPA should fall to us in the form of a defensive lineman or offensive tackle, so I don't think we can go wrong. If that doesn't happen, I wouldn't have a problem if TT put out some feelers to aggressive GM's to trade 3 or 4 picks down for an additional 3rd rounder or 9 or 10 picks down for an additional 2nd rounder.


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Posted: January 04, 2009, 11:39 AM Post
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What about Orakpo (DE) out of Texas? A lot of people seem to like him and his name is fun to say. I hope Malcolm Jenkins (CB, Ohio State) slips to 9, he would be great, but I doubt Thompson would take him anyway. If not him, one of the DTs (Cody, McCoy, Raji) would be fine if they are sure whoever they take isn't another Harrell. I actually wouldn't mind a change of pace RB who could also be used as a returner, but 9 is probably too high for any of those guys this year (plus, the best two of those guys this year are WRs: Maclin & Harvin and WR is the one spot where the Packers are fine).


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  With the 9th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:
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Posted: January 04, 2009, 11:40 AM Post
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I wouldn't have a problem if TT put out some feelers to aggressive GM's to trade 3 or 4 picks down for an additional 3rd rounder or 9 or 10 picks down for an additional 2nd rounder.

I would. They already have 4 picks in the top 100. This team needs impact players, not more depth.


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  With the 9th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:
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Posted: January 04, 2009, 11:44 AM Post
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Actually, the Packers are in great shape for the draft because they could use somebody at every position (except arguably QB & WR) so they can just take the best player available.

I would put their needs in this order:

D-Line
O-Line
Punter (not that I would take one in the first round)
TE
RB
LB
DB

I think all of them except DB are huge needs and considering the age of Woodson and Harris, even that is a pressing need.


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  With the 9th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:
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Posted: January 04, 2009, 11:53 AM Post
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Well, I want an impact player too, but I want it at a position of need. If the BPA available at #9 is a RB or LB and we're eyeing a DE who we could have at #15, it sure seems to make sense to move down 3 or 4 spots if the opportunity is there.

I wouldn't take a punter before the 4th round.


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  With the 9th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:
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Posted: January 04, 2009, 12:13 PM Post
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Offensive lineman
Corner
Defensive lineman


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I would rate D-Linemen as our top priority and corners lower. Another corner would be nice, but I don't think it's our biggest need. We have good corners, with or without Harris, but they can't cover forever when we're not getting any pass rush.


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Posted: January 04, 2009, 12:50 PM Post
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The biggest priority is lineman who can block and open holes for the running game. The guys that were out there this year weren't good. I thought the defensive line was our strength? At least it was last year. I guess that's changed. I didn't get to watch too many games this year, but the ones I did, the offensive line looked awful.


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Posted: January 04, 2009, 12:56 PM Post
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The defensive line wasn't a shadow of what it was in '07 this year. Losing Corey Williams seemed to hurt a lot and Cullen Jenkins missing the season demoralized the D-Line.

Other than Kampman, there really was no semblance of a pass rush from the D-Line all season. Nor could they stop the run.


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  With the 9th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select:
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Posted: January 04, 2009, 1:17 PM Post
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Moving to the draft forum....


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Posted: January 04, 2009, 1:38 PM Post
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I'm still holding out hope for a dynamic RB. Here's my case:

It's not a huge need, but a RB that averages 4.5+ ypc could really open up the offense. You could take a chance thinking that runner is Ryan Grant and throw out '08 to injury, or you can roll the dice high in the draft. Remember, Grant has basically no pedigree to fall back on seeing that he was undrafted coming out. All signs point to his half-season in '07 as the outlier, but I do hope I get proven wrong. A college back would be unproven, but I'm willing to take a chance.


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Posted: January 04, 2009, 1:54 PM Post
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I don't want to take a RB with the first pick unless there is a "can't miss" stud that drops. To me, the two biggest needs are O and D line. I guess I'd like to see them go after an offensive left tackle and try to address the defensive line via free agency (hey, I can dream). I have no evidence to back it up but it seems like more high first round offensive linemen pan out than defensive linemen; it seems like more teams "reach" on defensive linemen early in the draft.


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Posted: January 04, 2009, 2:46 PM Post
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The only way I'm going to be happy if we take a RB at #9 is if we signed Julius Peppers in March.


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Posted: January 04, 2009, 2:58 PM Post
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At #9, the Packers should be in a great position no matter who they take. It wouldn't seem as though they're in the market that early for the skill position players that as of right now would seem to go ahead of where they pick, and they may be able to land either the 2nd or 3rd best OT, with several good ones seemingly available, or possibly even the best DL available in the entire draft. They could land a shut-down corner (Jenkins from OSU as someone mentioned before would be a really nice fit, especially if Woodson sticks at FS), or even a play-making LB like the guy from USC. They also mentioned during the Rose Bowl that Mays, USC's super-freak athletic safety, is leaning towards coming out, although I usually am a believer that you don't draft safeties (or tight ends) in the first round.

While OT is going to be an obvious need, I would prefer they try to land an impact defensive player, preferably one that can play on the line. The LB from USC (you spell his name) intrigues me just because he seems to bring a little intensity and attitude with his game, although I recognize that such a player may not be perceived as great of a "need." Jerry, the DT from Ole Miss, seemed to elevate the entire Rebels defense by himself, although I'm not sure if the Packers mess with a DT that early. Johnson scares me a little bit, although I can't explain why he does and Orapko doesn't.


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Posted: January 05, 2009, 1:26 AM Post
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O-line or D-line, unless someone falls into their lap. An aside, I do hope the brain trust doesn't try to address all the needs via the draft. Seems to be a year where FA should be a option and some 'fits' are out there.


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An aside, I do hope the brain trust doesn't try to address all the needs via the draft. Seems to be a year where FA should be a option and some 'fits' are out there.

I agree completely. I've defended Thompson quite a bit in the past, mostly because I feel he's been unfairly punished for 2005 and the Favre situation, but he really needs to use free agency this year. The team has holes, there are great fits that could be available to help us, and the team has money to spend. Time to bring in another Woodson-type free agent that could make a big impact.


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Posted: January 09, 2009, 3:43 PM Post
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If McCoy from Oklahoma declares for the draft, he'd be very high on my list, especially if the new coordinator switches to a one gap scheme on the defensive line.


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Posted: January 10, 2009, 10:30 AM Post
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Jerry, the DT from Ole Miss, seemed to elevate the entire Rebels defense by himself

If McCoy from Oklahoma declares for the draft, he'd be very high on my list

You guys just nailed my lead choice (danzig) and my sleeper pick (colby). The lead choice is big enough to play inside, athletic enough to play outside, and skilled enough to intercept Tebow. The sleeper led the SEC in tackles for loss and played for the only team to beat Florida, in Florida, stopping them on a key 4th down when they tried to sneak it up the middle.

If Detriot goes OT with the #1 pick there may not be any of the big four left at #9, and OT is deep in this draft so they can still get a good one in the 2nd or 3rd round.


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Posted: January 12, 2009, 9:45 AM Post
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Jerry reminds me a lot of Bryant Young, who was one of the better DTs in the game with the 49ers before retiring just a year or two ago. I know he played some DE later in his career as well, but he always seemed to spend his time in the backfield even if he didn't always put up gaudy sack numbers. As I mentioned, I'm not sure if the Packers take another DT, but I would be impressed if TT did so.

McCoy would be nice as well. It just seems as though the talent at DT drops off quickly, and looking forward the position could be one of the team's greatest needs given Pickett's age, Cole's inconsistency, Harrell's health, etc.


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Posted: January 12, 2009, 5:46 PM Post
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Like you mention, there is a significant dropoff in talent after those two at that position. Evander Hood will give you a world of effort and would make for a decent 2nd round pick, but may not be the penetrator and athlete those two are. I think there is a bigger dropoff in talent at DE after McCoy/Orakpo, as there are a lot of 240-260lb DE/OLB 'tweeners but few DEs 275+ that can hold up against the run as well as generate pressure, thus why I'm leaning towards McCoy if he comes out. He is Cullen Jenkins but even better, and we saw what happened after Jenkins went down.

Good call on the Bryant Young comparison. If the Pack can move down a few spots and get Jerry and an extra pick, I'd be totally fine with that.

Pickett is a free agent after 2009, another reason why I think they will go with one of those two.


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